Can We Play You Every Week?!

Welcome back to this week's episode of the Mecca of Banter Podcast everyone! "Rivalry" was alive and well in the MLS this week where the St. Louis City SC team absolutely rolled Sporting KC 4-0. We look into the closing weeks of the Premier League where Manchester City hoisted the cup, Arsenal drop more points and Manchester United look to wrap up top 4. 

**Note: We had some technical difficulties on this podcast and unfortunately Butch's final question of Fact or Cap was cut out on the audio. The question was: "Who has had a better season, Erling Haaland or Harry Kane?"**

Transcript

00:00.00
henrywynd
And we are live gentlemen welcome back to another episode of the Mecca Of Banter Podcast I am this week's host Henry Wind you can find me on Twitter at henrywin. It's kind of crazy but season 2 is is coming to a close. We've gone through what 32 episodes at this point this is episode 32 and yeah, we have like two game weeks left for some of our teams only 1 game week left for other of our teams kind of crazy that is coming to an end. What a.

00:21.98
Dobes
Close to it.

00:34.19
henrywynd
What a great season. It's been but let's get a quick check in with the fellas here Lucas Winkleman how are you doing bro.

00:42.71
Winks
It's up boys I'm good. It's Monday played a little Fifa earlier. It's it is what it is happy to be here. Art art heart heartbroken on the inside but choosing to ah.

00:48.82
Bootchie
It is what it means.

00:48.91
Dobes
Oh my ohm I.

00:49.17
henrywynd
After Arsenal losing losing the time is it is.

00:49.94
Hoover
Shift This is.

00:54.26
Daddy Jaime
Um, G takes.

00:59.82
Dobes
Son.

00:59.87
Winks
To be happy because they get to spend the next hour and a half chatting footy with you guys.

01:01.84
Daddy Jaime
You sound like you lost your dog or something man. Yeah.

01:04.24
henrywynd
I You do like is the saddest intro I've ever heard in my life. Ah well I mean I don't know I don't know what the appropriate response is yeah I mean.

01:04.28
Hoover
This is this is.

01:06.10
Dobes
Ah, yeah, is yeah.

01:09.67
Winks
Did you expect a super if you were me. Yeah, so.

01:14.79
Daddy Jaime
Um I expect you better than that.

01:18.92
henrywynd
But welcome to the pod nevertheless Lucas Winkelman Connorson Dory what's up dog.

01:23.97
Dobes
It's going on fellas happy to be here. Um I'm kind of ready for this season to be over to be honest with you. It kind of stresses me the fuck out that united hasn't sort of wrapped this up yet and I have to think about it every single day. Um, but we're coming to an end here so lot to dive into this weekend. Um. Some kind of bought Championships occurred um a whole bunch of different stuff happened this weekend. So happy to dive into it and good to be here with you fellows.

01:47.81
henrywynd
James another man who's ready for the season to be over check in bro. How are you.

01:53.80
Daddy Jaime
The season's already over in my book. We aren't getting relegated onto the next season I don't care about playing united next week we could lose by 30 I don't care.

02:01.82
Bootchie
I.

02:02.50
Hoover
Sufficient.

02:04.20
henrywynd
I I think ah the announcers this weekend when when you all were playing city's second team. Um I think they said that you are officially finishing in the bottom half of the table and it might be your worst ever finish in. Ah the primer at least in the last but 20 years or so so.

02:18.55
Daddy Jaime
Cool onto the next one. Let's get let's get a season over with yeah.

02:20.35
henrywynd
Ah, bet you're stoked.

02:20.91
Dobes
But you but but you showed up you you showed up. That's all it matters. Yeah.

02:27.14
henrywynd
Yeah, you're really here stoked to see you ah Andy Hoover what's up dude.

02:31.48
Hoover
Yup, season's over just you know around around the corner lads. Ah no, we're good happy to be here. Enjoy this every week. So let's dive into why taught him some worst woo.

02:33.29
Daddy Jaime
Um.

02:35.25
henrywynd
A.

02:45.78
henrywynd
I'm ah I'm excited to see you specifically on this pot I'm glad that you made it through the St Louis City game this weekend and you didn't get stabbed by a Kansas City fan

02:54.13
Hoover
I was our our season tickets are just too close, but frankly to the away section that is but um, an eleventh minute pen kind of quells some of the anger amongst the home fans. So it really ended up being more. Ah. Ah, playful banter once we kind of took over the cleaners. So huge.

03:11.91
Dobes
There you go.

03:12.65
henrywynd
I love it and last but certainly not least gentlemen I want to give a round of applause on this podcast. We have our gaffer Mr Ryan butchar securing his first district title as a women's head coach of lafayette high school congratulations. My boy how you feeling.

03:32.16
Bootchie
Thank you bro I appreciate it I'm feeling great man. It's been a great few days except Liverpool tide which sucked ass. But um, no, it was great I appreciated I appreciated you guys being at the at my girls games last week man it was fun.

03:39.40
Dobes
Jack.

03:39.60
henrywynd
Um.

03:46.43
Dobes
O.

03:47.80
Bootchie
Dobes and wings for my eyes in the stands which was awesome I had some eyes up there to help me out and it was it was fun. Good moment for them bro.

03:55.80
henrywynd
It was so much fun. Yeah, job's not finished.

03:56.48
Winks
Um, when when's the next game When's the next game.

03:58.42
Dobes
Job's not finished.

03:58.95
Hoover
Sorry.

03:59.56
Bootchie
No, it's not no, it's state quarter finals will be played this Saturday may twenty seventh six o'clock so if we win that we go to the final 4 for the first time since 1999

04:15.60
Hoover
Oo this this.

04:15.67
henrywynd
Wow bro that's crazy. Ah, you know you had such a good time that you almost left the trophy at Obbe Clark's so you know and.

04:15.87
Winks
That's huge man good for you bro.

04:16.70
Dobes
Who's counting but who's counting. Ah.

04:17.11
Bootchie
Yeah, exactly right? I know.

04:24.80
Hoover
Is and unknown some green tea.

04:25.63
Bootchie
Well here here's the thing had a few Coca-cola s way in my mind a little bit. Yeah I some great tea.

04:29.16
Dobes
Ah.

04:33.30
henrywynd
He just left the trophy completely. Ah well gentlemen as always. We're going to dive into our weekly recap as well as look ahead to the big soccer Sunday that happens at the end of every season.

04:35.64
Daddy Jaime
Ah.

04:36.64
Winks
Couple soys.

04:49.96
henrywynd
We're gonna look at St Louis City and what they had going on against Kansas City and lastly we have our flowers and showers as well as factor cap our weekly segments so to kick us all off. Um, whove toten them against Brentford you had a loss of three 1 yikes. I mean you look happy over there I don't know if that's like just smiling through the pain or or what's going on.

05:11.43
Hoover
You then is um I'm bound back to back weeks and I'll be the first person to tell you back to back weeks and not watching the game actually no, that's not that's not true I think I watched like ah, no. I don't remember which week it was whatever but they're all starting to blend together. Um, because they're all kind of the same. So yeah, it was tough Harry Kane scored a worldy canceled out by 3 really really unfortunate defensive efforts. Um, on in bumo and weisa and they could in fact, do it without Ivan Tony so ah good for Brentford Brenford's great I really like Thomas Frank um I have no quarrels with with losing to them. But I do think. They look so good in the beginning in the first half they should have had 2 maybe 3 goals? Um, but you know that doesn't change things when you're still susceptible to just letting 3 really weak. You know, defensive you know airs in. So. Socks hair skin here Kane scored a fucking worldy bro that was sick. Um, but other than that rather rather disappointing I think the worst part about all of it and like I went on a little rent to you guys and I don't I don't even feel like I have a rent in me, but it's just a.

06:19.56
henrywynd
Um.

06:29.43
henrywynd
Until Butch starts talking about Liverpool you'll you'll find it. You'll find it.

06:31.32
Hoover
It's just weird. Ah yeah, we still haven't gotten to that one yet. But um, it's just it's just so disheartening and there's just nothing to look forward to and like sometimes you know spurs pull some things out of their ass like content coming and like I.

06:39.81
Daddy Jaime
If.

06:49.50
Hoover
I was more gassed about that than I had been related dis sps since 2019 so like it doesn't matter what we do is they just piss it away. Um, they did the like end of season honors or whatever after the game tone deaf there were there were levy out.

07:02.78
henrywynd
So stupid bro so stupid.

07:05.91
Hoover
Ah, tone deaf there were levy out balloons on the field. Um fans boo. There were levy out signs they were chanting levy out I was happy to see all of that but like they were showing highlights of the year on the video board before the end of season honors and like. But those highlights ended in February they didn't play pretty much anything after that like there there was just no, there was just no the connection between the ownership and fans I think is worse and it's ever been.

07:30.62
Bootchie
The square.

07:31.90
henrywynd
With me. Ah.

07:31.95
Daddy Jaime
This.

07:40.70
Hoover
They've got season ticket holders of of thirty forty Fifty years not renewing next year. Um, they they took the soul of the club I think when they when they got out of white Hart Lane and moved into this commercial facility and there's it's just you know they? they've. Turned toten him into this plastic looking big 6 club like that's that's what they are because there's nothing there. There's trophies from the sixty s and of you know whatever we won the Mickey Mouse cup in 2008 or some shit.

08:15.57
Dobes
The audio cup.

08:17.14
Hoover
But like oh that was in the summer that was when that was when we were around that was some fun stuff bro Davidvis and Sanchez Davids and Sanchez got to lift a trophy. So um, yeah, it's just and is everything's phony. Ah, we're gonna lose Harry Kane we don't have a manager. They're not gonna hire a manager for a month

08:22.79
Dobes
Ah I got you bro. Don't worry.

08:23.64
henrywynd
Um, knows.

08:35.76
Hoover
Um, it's just like nothing.. Nothing looks good. Everything is not positive around the club and like you know I want to go watch a game I would love to and now I'm like you know, stuck between wanting these owners out and wanting to give them my. You know $1500 that it would take to for me to get to to the stadium and watch a game so like fuck that too I don't even want to I don't even want to support them because they're what I feel to be the issue and I think a lot of times fans will say the same thing but it it's just there's just not a lot going here.

08:56.73
henrywynd
M.

09:11.77
henrywynd
Yeah.

09:12.94
Hoover
I think leads win on Sunday ah to be totally honest and I bet there's gonna be some juice on that moneyline and I think leads win I don't think there's anything that you can find inspiring about the spurs performances and I think there's a.

09:22.70
Dobes
That would be absurd. Do just to state like the wind means they'd essentially probably stay up on the last day.

09:25.69
henrywynd
Um, it would be crazy.

09:29.77
Hoover
They they would need Everton to lose so pretty much at all it all comes down to Everton who's playing born myth at home. But.

09:35.78
Dobes
I Can't wait.

09:41.73
Dobes
Oh my.

09:43.35
henrywynd
Um, yeah.

09:43.68
Hoover
Yeah, you know like Ellen wrote's not an easy place to play and we've seen week in and week out. These guys are allergic to pressure and that's going to be a pressure- filled situation when realistically they don't have anything on the lot and there's there's nothing. They're not fighting for jobs next year they don't even know who the manager is going to be We're not what if we get 3 points and some results go our way with villa we'll play in the conference league which worked out great this year so fun you know or last year. So um, yeah, you know you you can nobody nobody hates Tottenham hot spurs.

10:11.66
henrywynd
Ah.

10:12.16
Dobes
And.

10:16.50
henrywynd
I think I think you you sing.

10:21.57
Hoover
Ah, spur as much as Tottenham Hots fans I swear to you that is the most true statement. Yeah.

10:23.60
henrywynd
Yeah I mean you said tone deaf I think that's the word I think that like they've just shown that they're tone deaf and quite honestly like I don't think we're doing much better over here with Manchester united our owners are shit too. But like I think tone deaf is like the main.

10:37.20
Hoover
But there's ah, there's There's a horizon on your guys's end at some point like if if the glasers or do decide to sell That's a win if the glasers don't decide to sell there's still conversations are out potentially somebody coming in it I feel like.

10:42.23
henrywynd
The main thing.

10:56.75
Hoover
You have had a year where you have a coach that you trust and and there's just things that are in place for you guys that have never really been in place for Tottenham. So um I know I see where the the comparison and and disconnect is but. I just think it's so unbelievably blatant it spurs that it's tough to truthfully want to get behind and watch but I pick this fing team and I'm going to be the weekly resident totum fan on this podcast every week so bring on the transfer rumors lads. Let's do it.

11:18.60
henrywynd
Yeah.

11:30.89
henrywynd
Ah, we're so happy to have you man? Ah so yeah, you playing leads this Sunday be a big one for you all an even bigger one for them. So hopefully I say this lovingly I hope they show up for it I want a fucking.

11:31.88
Winks
And.

11:33.71
Hoover
He's.

11:41.39
Hoover
Thanks man me too.

11:45.28
henrywynd
Ah, soccer Sunday relegation battle thriller for the teens in the bottom 5 I want it to like go up and down sideways I hope that it's crazy but butchy. Um, good evening.

11:49.18
Hoover
Yeah, yeah, me too Good evening, good evening.

11:58.61
Winks
I.

11:59.63
Bootchie
Um, good evening.

11:59.70
Daddy Jaime
A.

12:01.83
henrywynd
Ah, you ah also got good evening. Ah this weekend and should have lost ah the game and you were fortunate to ah pull a goal back dode. Unbelievable.

12:08.59
Hoover
Yeah.

12:09.14
Bootchie
Cat.

12:11.30
Dobes
So 70 minutes of stoppage time.

12:13.85
Bootchie
Cap.

12:14.55
Daddy Jaime
Seriously.

12:18.34
henrywynd
Um, Butch let me just ask you bro. How does it feel being carried by the league through the season. Um, not not not not on your tactics not on your players but the league saying let's give them. No, let's give them every every chance to. Ah.

12:25.55
Hoover
Ah, run it up.

12:26.98
Bootchie
Um, so.

12:36.84
henrywynd
To pull a point. How does it feel. Oh god.

12:38.19
Bootchie
Prove it.

12:40.11
Hoover
That Iss is we.

12:41.61
Daddy Jaime
What was it 10 minutes of stoppage time.

12:42.61
Dobes
What What do you mean? you got yeah you guys are statistically the highest team with Plus minus in Var the entire premmier league like that's just a fact just it's just you guys. It's look it up ah look.

12:51.11
Bootchie
Tied with who cap.

12:52.65
henrywynd
Is yeah, it's It's not a tie. Yeah.

12:53.31
Hoover
List.

12:56.87
Winks
He said he he says prove it. You say it and then he says cap.

12:57.88
Daddy Jaime
Um, just yeah, yeah.

12:59.49
Dobes
Ah.

13:00.64
Bootchie
Listen Listen Let's a let's just a you know, let's steer clear of the var stuff I got.

13:02.10
Hoover
That's we've looked into this stat and it's it is fact.

13:02.31
Dobes
Yeah, we need you, we needed to pay last week bro so we got am we got two weeks to ammo for you.

13:04.70
henrywynd
Ah.

13:14.96
Bootchie
Pablo Escobar over here Hoover looking you look like he's ready to come at me I want to wait a second here. Let's talk about the game kids. So Aston Villa played well scored for Jacob Brampsey is the truth in all honesty.

13:21.62
henrywynd
Jacob Ramsey's the truth.

13:24.61
Hoover
Let's.

13:32.85
henrywynd
Um, yes, sir.

13:34.69
Bootchie
I'd like to see him I know villas fighting for Europe but I would like to see him go to like a top 4 or 5 I think he could fit in and read a really top club. He's good player um farewell tour for Bobby Fermino Milner 2 legends of the club. No doubt. Um. Um, not even Goingnna say nabi kaitta because he's not a legend. The guy made a glass. Ah.

13:57.79
Winks
But I did I did see a ah tweet today that said it was like Bobby assisted sala's first goal at Liverpool and then sala assisted Bobby's last goal at Liverpool I thought that was pretty cool. So.

14:07.22
Dobes
Yeah I saw that.

14:13.24
Bootchie
Yeah, it was um I'm glad you brought that up because for me know like I think it'll be a big loss for the club because he's just been so immense for us so many big goals and big moments for him. I'm glad he got the goal too I'm glad he scored in this game you know, kind of like a farewell even though we didn't get 3 points but um, yeah I mean we had a goal chalked off by v a r um, so there's your v ar you know I mean like. They chalked it off if they if we were if we were paying if we were paying the the federation they would have kept that shit you know of shit.

14:46.00
henrywynd
How much.

14:47.27
Dobes
Um, yeah, if you weren't if you weren't you beat tie with Chelsea.

14:49.55
Hoover
Sick to.

14:52.93
henrywynd
Ah, true true.

14:55.55
Bootchie
Anyway, um, no, you know it was a decent game I thought I genuinely thought we were going to score more than one I was looking for a second I wanted a second. Um, it's ah it's honestly a big big.

15:11.70
Bootchie
Momentum boost for United Because now everything's in their hands. You know like we have to bag on you guys losing 2 games for us to qualify you know so you got to go back to back els which I don't see happening. Um I know you guys just lost two in a row to west ham and Brighton but you had a bounce back win.

15:15.84
henrywynd
Um, here.

15:31.38
Bootchie
Think you guys will will went out or at least stay above us. So it'll be a tough watching a book in my Thursday afternoons. It's gonna be tough man I haven't had to do that in a very long time. So winks I feel your pain bro.

15:48.19
Winks
Oh bro I'm stoked. It's it's it's like a weird feeling and I was going to talk about it briefly when we get to my game but like for the teams who like go back and forth between Europa and and champions league every year. You don't get quite the excitement.

15:53.25
henrywynd
Ah.

16:05.74
Winks
That you do from like not being in the the ucl since the 201617 season I don't know I'm stoked.

16:09.45
Bootchie
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but overall you know move on. It's over no more liverpool talk Anyways, who's next.

16:11.92
henrywynd
Um, and yeah.

16:18.55
Hoover
Check her.

16:21.54
henrywynd
Dude ah dude it was quick I still and like waiting for next season to Butch like actually perk up when he's talking about liverpool I mean the last what 4 episodes he's been on. He's like set world records for how short he can talk about this team.

16:21.80
Daddy Jaime
How's the awfully quick.

16:37.36
henrywynd
Ah, because I don't even think butch likes Liverpool I think that everyone in the in the league including Butch is just like fuck that team I don't want to watch him anymore.

16:38.47
Winks
So.

16:42.80
Dobes
But but but you just won a league title bro bar so shavi was lifted in the air in shit bro. But yeah.

16:48.96
Hoover
And shh.

16:51.57
Bootchie
Here's the thing here's the thing first. All first of all, that's first first of all, hey stop your boners First of all the the flag on my wall is leono messy. Okay.

16:51.72
henrywynd
Yeah, look at look at that man's wall behind him that ah not a single liverpool thing in sight.

16:56.66
Daddy Jaime
Ah, yeah.

16:58.48
Dobes
Well, he's a close liverpool fan.

16:59.75
Hoover
Is.

17:08.94
Bootchie
Second of all all my Liverpool stuff is at um, my classroom at school and it's right next to my desk I call it the liverpool corner if you talk bad on Liverpool you're getting an f okay I'm writing f on your on your essay. Okay, okay, maybe not that was exaggerate. Oh.

17:19.19
Hoover
This.

17:20.21
henrywynd
You wouldn't though you wouldn't do that I don't believe that either to we're getting. Yeah.

17:21.80
Daddy Jaime
I Don't believe that is.

17:25.28
Hoover
Yeah, yeah.

17:27.34
Winks
That was a cap.

17:28.24
Bootchie
But don't talk scar. Okay, but no the reason and I'll honestly the reason why I haven't talked much is like I'm like you guys a few of you have said I'm waiting for this season to be over I want to see what transfers we bring in because we're we're linked with Alexis Mcalister who I think is a good fit I know some of you guys think he'd be an average fit I think he'd be a great fit. Um James you have no room to talk about average you spent 500000000 on f.

17:48.54
Daddy Jaime
Super average. Yeah.

17:51.28
Hoover
He's overrated.

17:53.77
henrywynd
Yeah I think Jack Jake is probably the doctorate of average. Yeah.

17:56.18
Winks
Ah.

17:56.22
Daddy Jaime
Ah I think I have a ah vast knowledge of what is average like literally yeah 12 Yeah.

17:57.64
Hoover
So.

18:00.70
Dobes
I Just just calls it like he sees it bro.

18:01.94
Bootchie
I would I would take Alexis Mcalister over every single player on Chelsea's midfield every single one every single one. Okay Mason Mount Mason Mount

18:08.52
Dobes
Cap Cap stretch a fucking cap you yeah Butge butch. But you bro.

18:08.62
henrywynd
Oh stop? Dude Why would you say that.

18:09.43
Daddy Jaime
I think that's I think that's just not true in goal o conte and so Koch itch makes him out makes him out who you're begging for no chance.

18:12.90
Hoover
Ah, so right now that's a there's no way.

18:16.68
Winks
That's absurd.

18:19.24
Hoover
And.

18:20.35
Bootchie
No mason mount can wash Mason Mount can clean my cleats bro Mason Mount can clean my cleats. Okay, the only person on that team that I would take is cap enzo's the only one I'm taking that's it I'm not taking a 32 year old conte.

18:29.00
Daddy Jaime
Um, he'd step in and be your best midfielder calling it.

18:29.96
Dobes
And so.

18:36.94
Daddy Jaime
Okay.

18:38.83
Bootchie
I'm not taking freaking koicch I'm not taking ah I'm not I'm not is is 29 he's 29 no I don't want that.

18:40.20
Dobes
I would change cover kitchen a heartbeat we we just signed castamirro at at at 29 and he's a best midfill in the league. Ah exactly.

18:40.45
henrywynd
Budget budget. These takes are wild.

18:42.20
Daddy Jaime
I Was gonna say I take him I want to keep him.

18:43.45
Hoover
This is going wild These are wild takes.

18:51.39
Bootchie
30 actually he's not the best you think he's better than de bruna get the get out look at you. You're laughing as you know I'm right freaking best midfield in the league man. It.

18:51.94
Winks
So oh oh hot hot take hot take.

18:53.94
Hoover
Oo whoo.

19:00.00
Daddy Jaime
That's here. That's just.

19:01.74
Dobes
But.

19:03.61
henrywynd
Bro bro I'm like I'm trying so hard to have your back and I'm like oh I got know if I get I don't know if I can say that that's true. Yeah, an effect.

19:05.46
Winks
He's the best at getting suspended from games. Yeah.

19:07.73
Hoover
And who.

19:11.79
Bootchie
Um, here on bro bro.

19:12.28
Dobes
Bro bow he'd be even better if he wasn't out for 6 games but that does have a little bit of a ah church chip in his argument. Oh my god but she just wait bro.

19:17.38
Bootchie
Though. Yeah, when you assault somebody? yes.

19:19.98
Winks
And hindsight's 2020

19:22.35
henrywynd
Well butch I think when when when we get to your you know whether it's next week or the week after when we get to our season recap episode I'll be really curious to hear you talk about you know your season your best players. What's ahead in the transfer window but moving on.

19:37.61
Bootchie
You all already know our best player. It's easy Dude stop stop jing Paul come on bro.

19:40.90
henrywynd
Ah, Curtis Jones

19:45.70
Hoover
Curtis owns what's that guy with the t and the s this simmisims miss ass what's his name good again but say I will say.

19:45.37
Dobes
Harvey Elliott

19:45.90
henrywynd
James Milner

19:54.85
Daddy Jaime
He can.

19:55.00
henrywynd
Ah, given they and again in submissive success.

19:55.58
Winks
Gndigin.

19:57.29
Bootchie
Somaka.

20:00.97
Hoover
Since I heard that no the same I leave I don't know how to say his name but that was kind of a joke but I have heard English pundits this week I've been listening to people say gunwa and I'm like wait like every time I hear someone saying incorrectly now I'm like tech I fucked it. He's English like he lives there as he does this.

20:03.94
Daddy Jaime
Um.

20:14.57
Daddy Jaime
Yeah.

20:14.91
Dobes
I.

20:19.56
henrywynd
Yeah, defer a living ah dobes man. Ah 1 o result against bornmouth for our Manchester United Boys is this just a you know.

20:20.65
Bootchie
Um, ah.

20:20.71
Hoover
The.

20:30.85
henrywynd
Get the job done onto the next or is there a bigger story behind this result.

20:35.97
Dobes
It's a little bit of that. But I think there's no secret if anybody watched the game like we we dominated possession but that was a little bit of it. It. We had a lot of a lot of great spells of possession Ericson Bruno um our backline was was fairly quiet. The entire game. Um, but going forward. We just don't have it. We don't have anything dangerous like we've been saying this all season like when we don't have Marcus Rashford it we just don't look like the same team and how how much we rely on one player. Um. Honestly, it's it's why we need such an overhaul in the summer but I'm happy with the result the castamirro finish was absolutely fucking world class I like I think the adjustment that he had to make after that ball got deflected like that little header and he had to sort of turn his body like I think the finish isn't getting enough appreciation. But I think the other side of it is fact that.

21:11.14
Winks
Yeah.

21:25.97
Dobes
Not to just sit here and like keep saying it but we are still in a final and if you look at our form versus man city's form of what they've been like if we show up how we have the last three weeks like it. It'll be 6 now like and um and I think that's what I'm a little bit.

21:37.91
henrywynd
Um, yeah.

21:38.85
Hoover
Yeah, ah.

21:41.71
Dobes
Where like yes we do need to Clinch. We need 1.4 next 2 games I think we're gonna get it done. Our home record is unbelievable. But I think in terms of we still do have a final to play and watching men city go and do what they did against real madrid watching city do it weekend and week out even with their second team and then watching us squeak out a 1 no win against bornmouth. Um, like obviously I'm happy with the result but with a final it doesn't exactly give me confidence.

22:03.31
henrywynd
Yeah I think that's well said. Um I think for a lot of the season. You know we've we've had the occasional slipup of you know obviously liverpool seven o brighton and Brentford both four zero like we've we've had our slipups but a lot of the season we've been pretty solid defensively like that's what we've kind of built our. Like season on and knowing that we're going into city with kind of a makeshift back for um, you know without Lasandra Martinez potentially without ferron being fully healthy. It does scare me a little bit but I am stoked that we got the job done. Um, you know over the weekend I I do have just man. And I'd be curious. You're all thoughts on this as like the non-united supporters but I have just so many doubts about Jaden Sancho I don't think we're gonna offload him in the summer because I don't think anyone's gonna pick him up for the money. We'd be asking for him. But for me like I'm like he's kind of onto his last leg What do you guys? think.

22:40.32
Dobes
So.

22:56.44
henrywynd
With with San jo.

22:59.85
Hoover
And.

22:59.92
Bootchie
Use a cap.

23:00.11
Winks
He he was out. He was out for so much of the season. It's tough to like judge it quite in that way I definitely think from the games. He's played you can make that argument but you also have to like see him play a full season to really start.

23:16.56
Hoover
Yeah, I'm kind of with that I don't know you like yeah I don't think you're offloading him because that upfront price is just too much Regardless so you know you're gonna see another year of him but I do think like he's got these moments and flashes of being the guy that we thought he was but it.

23:18.28
Winks
I Don't know to to.

23:35.49
Hoover
The lack of consistency is concerning for sure and you know I kind of feel for the guy. But when you get paid 300 whatever a week. You know there's there's an expectation that kind of comes with that. Yeah.

23:44.41
Winks
And suck it up.

23:49.53
Dobes
Ah, yeah, I'm with that I do think there's a player there um like what's funny and that you said this like I actually thought that Sancho was actually halfway decent I just pulled up his stats from the weekend. It was 86 packs accuracy 24 Final third passes Nine ball recoveries 5 found ground duels 1 4 and 4 dribbles completed. 2 key passes like so there's a player there like on his day like I think that you can turn back the clock to what he was at Dortman but I think who've hit the nail in the head where the inconsistency is what especially with the price tag and you add all the sort of different things to where in the prem you play at manchess united you have to perform or you're gonna get criticized. Um. I'm kind of just banking in the back of my mind hoping that like you guys are right? It takes a full season in a full preseason of like being in a good head space and like knowing you got to like be able to play may help him improve but I also feel like that could just be a pipe dream and yeah.

24:39.48
Hoover
He needs a 9 bro. A lot of you all of your guys need a nine like.

24:40.32
henrywynd
Yeah, yeah I think so too.

24:44.83
Dobes
Hundred percent he he's such a possession based player too where he likes to get in and combined and I mean he he should in can has the ability to at least take eyes on one on one but when he has somebody to combine with it. A 9 consistently. He can be nails. Um, so that's a great shout.

25:04.40
henrywynd
I'm hopeful will we take on Chelsea in the weekend. We'll get to that in a second or midweek rather yeah, what's up dude.

25:09.61
Winks
Side note when when is Antony going to learn when to make the pass when he needs to make the pass instead of shooting or shoot when he should shoot instead of making a pass or taking 5 or 6 more gerables because because ah a few a few of you a few of you.

25:16.21
Daddy Jaime
2

25:16.50
henrywynd
Holy shit bro I hope ah I hope oh upper man.

25:24.50
Dobes
Um, ah hopefully soon.

25:26.18
Winks
Watch watch that game with me on on Saturday morning and Henry's jaw was just dropped for like 30 straight seconds in one of those instances and.

25:31.36
Hoover
Say this.

25:33.82
henrywynd
It was on the floor bro I mean it's crazy.

25:36.47
Dobes
Ah.

25:37.92
Hoover
I so I've seen videos I've seen like tiktoks all week of guys rewatching the united game and like they would like pause pause it and restart it like he's like I'm making this pass I'm making this pass like starting it. Ah like I'm making this pass now like.

25:43.74
Winks
Just pausing it. But.

25:51.69
Dobes
Ah, but but the the weak foot shot attempt was almost even worse. He was like seven yards out goal and it went to his right foot. It just looked like my left foot when I try to shoot it bron straight wide.

25:55.36
Hoover
No, that's insane. But.

25:56.55
Winks
Unbelievable.

25:56.81
henrywynd
Ah.

26:04.45
henrywynd
Um, yeah, and he just didn't even take it. Yeah.

26:05.72
Winks
And and then there was another chance that he had on his right foot like it was a clear through ball like he was clear on didn't even take it. He just tried to cut back and then by that time there were 2 or three defenders on him and bro just.

26:15.97
Dobes
Um, he he's lucky he has his defensive work right? or I would even just shit on him. But that's what he that's about all he has going for him.

26:24.65
henrywynd
Yeah, hundred percent I mean speaking on getting shit on Nottingham for us pulled out a 1 oh victory over the Arsenal Football Club the tricky trees.

26:31.91
Winks
And that's an that's an exaggeration. That's an exaggeration.

26:32.22
Hoover
Cool quick transition quick transition. The trees the City ground was bouncing.

26:34.38
Bootchie
Um.

26:34.78
Dobes
Um, a twin trees baby.

26:43.77
henrywynd
I Want to call something out I um I made ah I made a call out on the bot a couple of weeks ago about how Arsenal are going to lose to City and that is not the last time that they're going to drop major points this season and that happened brother. What a terrible terrible showing.

26:44.22
Bootchie
Um.

27:02.49
henrywynd
From the Arsenal Football Club

27:05.10
Winks
Any any other comments to add there on your wonderful intro. Thank you The yeah bro. Okay.

27:10.00
Hoover
Ah, that insane.

27:10.99
Daddy Jaime
644 passes to 80 fits right in Georgia house I accurate passes accurate passes. They completed over 700 um yeah

27:14.51
Dobes
Um.

27:17.53
Winks
And and and and that's and that's the crazy part Jake is like to me so had had a couple of the guys over to watch the game had an Electrician over at the same time and was having to like run out and help him so I didn't get to sit down and like watch the full thing but have since watched.

27:19.74
Dobes
Ah, the.

27:27.61
Hoover
The.

27:36.95
Winks
Thanks Butch. We can't see anything though. Um, but have have since you know read a lot and watched a lot of clips and from what I saw Georgio looked like 1 of our best players on the field odegard didn't have his best day.

27:38.19
Hoover
No one else.

27:39.45
henrywynd
1 Ah.

27:55.20
Winks
Not the result we wanted. Obviously in addition to having you know four key injuries I feel like I don't have any room to talk about being injury riddden like like Jake does but you know and towards the end of this towards the end of what's been a super underwhelming season. Um, sorry.

28:13.78
Winks
This ending to the season has been underwhelming on top of what's been an overall awesome. Yeah, all right? Um, on top of what's been and a super fun season to watch. Um I think that we all expected arsenal to come out differently after losing to Brighton last week and but we just.

28:16.23
henrywynd
Um, and underwhelming season fellows.

28:32.84
Winks
You guys saw we just didn't do anything with the over eighty percent possession that we had. You know we led in every single stack category except for like big chances which is obviously the most important one so you know, really weird lineup to kiwi or and party where our wing backs. First time that.

28:34.43
Hoover
No nothing.

28:50.41
Winks
Either of them have played wing back this season which is cool. Ah, side note Gibbs white is nails and nails. Yeah, um, but just workhorse but kind of kind of kind of an unfortunate goal.

28:55.48
Hoover
Guys So fun to watch student up and back. Yeah.

28:56.11
henrywynd
Still a baller.

28:57.95
Dobes
It.

29:09.49
Winks
A spoon-f fed back past mistake by ode guardd that ended up deflecting off Gabriel's foot when he went in for the challenge. But in hindsight you know we if we were going to lose and citdi was going to clince the title at some point anyways, I'm glad that. The boys in blue were able to give them the proper guard of honor before the game. Um, so good for you guys. We've been there. Um, so glad that you guys get to see how that feel but you know on a as a supporter it's been like I said an underwhelming end to an otherwise really really fun season to watch but at the end of the day heartbreaking on a positive note though I know you guys all saw that our Ted is being given roughly $200000000 and I know that to spend this summer and I know that yeah and so I know that you know.

29:52.98
Daddy Jaime
Yeah, we've heard man.

29:56.10
Dobes
Good again.

29:59.38
Winks
Yeah, so I know that you and we'll we'll talk about you know transfer rumors and all that stuff on another pod but you know this is one of the first summers or transfer windows really where our teta. Well the first one since our tet has been been the boss that he's being given this much room to.

29:59.93
henrywynd
Um.

30:17.36
Winks
Purchase players on top of you know whoever we end up selling assuming that they give him that extra bit of money to to spend towards players but you know I hope we use that really wisely and I think there's a ton of different ways we can go with this? Um, but I just hope they do it right? So we can make you know an even stronger push.

30:21.89
Bootchie
I.

30:37.26
Winks
And the prem next year and obviously the Ucl as well. Which like I said couldn't be more excited to to be back in. So.

30:45.35
henrywynd
What's your number 1 You don't have to say the person like the target but like what position are you like if you got a chunk of that 200 who what position do you want to go after first.

30:56.54
Winks
Yeah, um, probably probably probably in a six I think you can you can make an argument for for another winger or another center back. But I think that.

31:10.91
Winks
I just it sucks so much that west ham's like we're we're putting 120000000 on deckland rice because I don't think any of us think he's $120000000 player even with inflation. Um, but I think we we have to go after him.

31:17.77
henrywynd
Um, ah.

31:25.91
Hoover
Thanks Todd Boley

31:28.63
Bootchie
Um, well well you you have to replace Shaka is he's out. You go.

31:30.00
Winks
Yeah bro.

31:33.53
henrywynd
Yeah, that's a starter.

31:35.66
Winks
We do? Yeah and yeah, and so Rice Casado are the 2 main guys that that were linked with for you know they could they could play that position but I'd I'd love to see Declan Rice there I think that him. Him party and odegard in the middle would be just disgusting.

31:57.67
Dobes
In all series though like gudgoon on a on a like on a 2 year on a 2 year ah on like a on a on a.

32:01.67
Winks
And then get getting getting getting.

32:02.20
Hoover
Get the dignity.

32:03.30
Daddy Jaime
Um, good. You could good room. Yeah.

32:08.21
Dobes
Like a 2 year deal I think obviously you have to get somebody else like ah who knows if these rumors are true of course ourteta likes him.

32:10.56
Winks
Yeah, he he he would be a similar signing to the reason that we signed Georgio in January in my opinion like cheaper price older guy a lot lot of championship experience. Yeah.

32:17.54
Dobes
Like 4 years cheaper the but like that that's a presence who I think can like get you over the hump to win a title that you need in your team like zncinko and in hey Zeus have been there.

32:22.86
Hoover
City reject.

32:26.50
henrywynd
But.

32:33.64
Hoover
City rejects.

32:36.17
Dobes
Like now you're getting yeah they je genuinely are. But now you're getting like a full on captain of city who's been there done it like 3 and 4 you 3 or 4 years in a row and are arguably being been one of the most important pieces in the team. So like I think 2 years is solid I think that'd be so sick.

32:47.67
Winks
Absolutely yeah, oh I'd I'd love to get a good and good and Jersey for sure. But yeah, yeah, him him ca saido rice whoever but the problem is obviously good and good and gooding would be cheap. But yeah.

32:53.88
Hoover
Maybe fat damn.

32:54.99
Dobes
Ah, he's an arsenal player too with the Arteta style.

32:55.61
henrywynd
But a.

32:58.95
Bootchie
Grove.

33:06.97
Winks
Rice and Cais Sato are like roughly two hundred mill together in terms of what the teams are asking on a price tag. So it's um, yeah, so it's like we'll we'll see what happens there you know and and like I said we'll dive deeper into transfers another time because since.

33:10.84
Dobes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

33:11.49
henrywynd
Um, ah.

33:11.99
Hoover
I hope guys say those stays and plays on thursdays.

33:15.53
henrywynd
And.

33:25.78
Winks
Griff and I did the mecca moments on arsenal a lot has changed as far as you know who our targets are for the summer what players other teams are asking us to you know bid on Jovi Simmons at psv etc. So ah, I'm excited to dive into that but it.

33:33.65
henrywynd
Ah.

33:39.24
henrywynd
Your your your your Dynasty came to an end since you recorded so you know a lot of things have changed.

33:44.44
Hoover
So.

33:44.71
Winks
So oh I don't know about that I don't know about that. But.

33:48.75
Daddy Jaime
The ah the sneaky good pickup in Georginio has done wonders. He's been great for you guys I think he slowed the game down massively this weekend I think that he completely ruined any fucking offense. You could have had.

33:52.00
Dobes
I Had the.

33:52.85
Hoover
I So think there's a yes I.

34:02.50
Dobes
Ah I love the Virginia head is still there. It's still deep in Jake's stomach but

34:03.39
Winks
Yes, yes, yes, but he he he he was also he was also far and above the player that delivered the most final third passes for our team that game so regardless of if he slowed the game down like he was. He was the most.

34:05.69
Daddy Jaime
I Love it.

34:07.74
henrywynd
And ah J of.

34:12.30
Dobes
Ah.

34:21.47
Winks
He was the guy that was trying to you know make things happen in the final third the most and I think that we saw that in several tiny spells throughout our season this year where we in a lot of turn and a lot of games. You know that we won and got 3 points from there were a lot of opportunities. Where we didn't create big chances where we were just kind of possessing it around their final third and weren't you know making making penetrating passes or crossing the ball and when we needed to and I hope that that's a problem that we solve going into next year because we should have scored we had we should have scored way more this year all around.

34:54.74
Daddy Jaime
I think for watching the entire game that yes jordanio might have had the most balls in and the final third whatever but taking the ball away from ode guard to give georgio the ball is not a tradeoff that you want to have at least personally yeah yeah.

34:55.53
Winks
Than than we did.

35:07.80
Hoover
There's we we said this last week that there's a world where the games the Georgio looks the best means that it's not going the way that you want it to? yeah yeah.

35:07.61
henrywynd
Um, ah.

35:13.92
Daddy Jaime
He just touched the ball the most. Yeah yeah, yeah, a hundred percent just on a yeah yeah.

35:17.30
henrywynd
It's the it's the ronaldo effect from last year Renaldo was like our most influential player and our team was the worst it's ever been yeah, did.

35:17.49
Dobes
Um.

35:25.98
Dobes
Wait links real quick before we move on I got to get 1 in um I ah at this at this moment in time I'll save a lot for the season the season review but like at this moment are you are you.

35:30.70
henrywynd
Dude. Ah.

35:30.80
Bootchie
Yeah.

35:31.69
Daddy Jaime
Um.

35:35.20
henrywynd
I think.

35:40.12
Dobes
Are you our teed and are you our Teedta in right now I I have to ask all Ola got fired for similar seasons. So like just wanted just wanted to check to see where the pulse was added Arsenal Um, some teams have higher standards. You know.

35:40.71
Winks
For sure on a person.

35:41.92
Daddy Jaime
If.

35:49.90
Winks
Yeah, we're we're not, we're not as bipolar as you united ends are so you know we we we trust it is it has been consistent progress since he joined so we're not, we're not gonna we don't give up on on those guys after six months

35:51.43
henrywynd
Um.

35:55.28
henrywynd
And.

35:57.14
Dobes
Wanted to check in see where the pulse was with the Arteta crowd.

36:07.44
henrywynd
Dude maybe maybe one day winks maybe one day on this podcast. You'll have like ah at least a semi-motional reaction to your team. It's like you have the most you have like the most Pr positive like responses to arsenal like no one's given a fuck man. You can say whatever you want Doug like.

36:07.92
Dobes
I'm good to go to.

36:15.17
Hoover
Um.

36:15.24
Dobes
I know. Ah.

36:19.55
Winks
So no I know no I know I Just the right.

36:22.91
Dobes
He he like leaves and just goes and to the punching bag and just hits it fucking 50 times.

36:23.42
henrywynd
No one's policing it.

36:27.84
Daddy Jaime
Um, and feel.

36:28.40
henrywynd
Something drift.

36:29.49
Winks
No, it's I I know that sometimes you guys try and get reactions out and you know like yeah I'll go and yeah, no I I honestly do you do you guys like him like if this happened to you guys knowing Dobes I'll ask you specifically.

36:36.45
Dobes
That's a genuine thought though.

36:45.59
henrywynd
Arteta.

36:47.38
Winks
Dobes I'll ask you specifically since you ask a question but knowing knowing how the team has overall progressed since he took over what the team that he came into to now obviously a disappointing you know last couple months and end to the season. But. He's a young manager. He has a writ like the second youngest team in the prem like do you would you give up on a manager at this point knowing that he's got a summer coming up where he can spend over $200000000 on players. So.

37:13.88
Dobes
I Think this is his the biggest summer of his managerial career because this is not year one. It's not even year two. It's not year three like here's it year three I don't even know this is fourth.

37:17.64
Winks
Yeah.

37:27.26
henrywynd
I Think this will be his fourth. Yeah.

37:28.63
Winks
This this this this. Yeah this yeah.

37:30.63
Dobes
The the next one's gonna be his fourth. Oh yeah I mean the the progress is there. But I think after this window like it just depends on what the standards of of your man's stand crony are like if if he's cool with like second place in champions league then. Like that is what is what it is like I I genuinely think it depends on what the standards are like I think next year it should be premierly title or bust doesn't necessarily mean if he doesn't do it that you can fire him but I just think that that's sort of what the standards need to be and especially if he's going to get a ah summer to spend 200000000 like I think that just to sort of depends on what the standards are definitely have to bring them back after the progress this season because I've I've said a million times even as much hate as arsenal they've progressed have been the best team at world at times but the same time that's all fun and nice to say but you have nothing to show for it and I think that's sort of the I think that's the.

38:22.72
henrywynd
Right.

38:24.73
Winks
Yep.

38:27.91
Dobes
Sort of opposite a po like our opposite side. There is like our tet is a great manager but at the end of the day like you get judged based off of what you win and that's how 10 hags going to get judged. That's how poach will get judged at Chelsea like that's what you know what? I mean that's at the end of the day. That's what it is.

38:34.14
henrywynd
And.

38:44.70
Dobes
And so I think at the end of day he needs just what what do you win at FA cup so he's got one. But I think I think he just needs to to make that jump forward with especially with the money he's getting.

38:51.71
Winks
Yeah, yeah.

38:55.11
henrywynd
Yeah I agree I think that I think this like upcoming season is a big one for him and if it's anything less than a title I think that you know he it's deserving to have the conversation that he might be out at the end of the season which is crazy to say but I think it's there. Ah yeah, you know.

39:07.13
Winks
Long way to go till then. So.

39:11.71
henrywynd
Couple more ah couple more pr answers before then so up ahead we have ah soccer Sunday coming this weekend so all of the teams play on the final day of the season. It's one of the best events of the year but before we get there Chelsea boy.

39:13.65
Hoover
So.

39:24.67
Winks
Like.

39:29.30
henrywynd
We have ah the Chelsea lost to city second team 1 nothing and then you play United Midweek talk to us a little bit about the game against cities second team and then is there anything that you're looking forward to against united.

39:45.20
Daddy Jaime
Ah I watched for 11 minutes ah this weekend. Do you guys know what happened in the eleventh minute and Chelsea got scored against so that means Chelsea loses 11 minutes into the game. Um.

39:52.33
henrywynd
Now.

39:59.84
henrywynd
A third.

40:02.20
Daddy Jaime
Super super fun to watch. Ah yeah I literally turned it off after 11 minutes and I I don't remember if I was texting in the group with Hoover or who it was but somebody mentioned that they were playing their second team and I still said we're going to lose. There is quite literally 0 hope on our side.

40:03.45
Dobes
Ah, oh.

40:13.47
Hoover
Yeah, you did can't confirm. Yeah.

40:13.97
Dobes
Yeah, you you did say that.

40:15.62
henrywynd
Um, yeah.

40:21.42
Daddy Jaime
Ah, playing a 3 5 2 with haberts and sterling upfront Aspila Kuta looks more and more out of place every single game that he plays which is sad. Um I think fafauna had the worst game of all I think that he was in no man's land for 99 % of the time. Um, but bright spot Louis Hall still looks great as left back slash left mid yeah still great. Wish he played for the last three months but yeah, looking forward to united I hope to spoil all of your fun.

40:45.24
henrywynd
Baller Bro baller.

40:49.90
Hoover
He isn't gotten caught.

40:55.53
henrywynd
Thanks man.

40:57.38
Daddy Jaime
Um I hope we actually take out all of our chances of winning for the rest of the year and put it on that game. Um I think that'd be awesome, but other than that now not on the next season I don't care anymore. Yeah, yeah, horrible. Yeah yeah.

41:07.22
Dobes
Is is lay part and this isn even like troll and Ja but Lampport's got to be up there with worse like managers in the Para league history like I mean this is insane like that that lineup like knowing you're playing main City was.

41:12.39
henrywynd
Manager as well.

41:17.80
Daddy Jaime
Yeah, yeah.

41:23.20
Dobes
And city are great and their second team is is all that and fantastic. But nobody's second team should be able to come out and do that to Chelsea.

41:24.50
Daddy Jaime
Yeah.

41:26.68
henrywynd
Um, yeah I mean.

41:27.49
Hoover
Half of them were kids rather they were kids and like Henry said hungover vets bro. They knew that they the league was over. They were shitty.

41:32.24
Daddy Jaime
Um, he kind of yeah yeah.

41:32.92
henrywynd
Yeah.

41:36.40
Dobes
Fucking Cole Palmer had as Bill Aquetta and it's going in circles man.

41:40.19
Bootchie
No.

41:41.10
henrywynd
Well, okay, Butch. But genuinely I want your take on this because obviously you're the coach of the group is it is um, is it a matter of Lampard actually being that. Is he that bad of a coach or is it just the teams underperforming.

41:59.61
Bootchie
I don't know enough about what's going on behind the scenes. But if I had to guess I don't think Lampard is as smart as he portrays himself to be so i. I think the players may underperform a little bit but I don't think he genuinely knows what he's doing in terms of getting results.

42:19.19
henrywynd
I mean I I just think that's crazy how how is it and just because you're a great player doesn't mean that you're going to be a great manager. But how are you at the pinnacle I mean we're talking about Lampard as one of the best midfielders of all time. How are you that dominant in the game for that long winning as much as you have and not be able to understand a tactical breakdown of an like opposing team or being able to like make an adjustment midgame like you have to make those decisions every single moment while you're playing I just I can't. I just don't understand how he's that bad of a manager and he just is. He's terrible.

42:54.19
Hoover
Well and there's and these none of the lineups have been consistent either though like I think the number 1 thing is he's a horrible man manager so like he already has guys that are aren't willing to do the things that he says but you're right like to a certain degree. The lineups are different.

42:55.22
Daddy Jaime
I see.

43:13.13
Hoover
Formations are different. There's no like when you have a bare bonenes team like spurs had been in the previous you know scenarios like contact him in was like this is what the fuck we're gonna do I don't give a fuck what other teams are gonna line up against us with like Frank hasn't done that. There's been no identity at all like even even no glimpses like you get the ball wide and you cross balls to sterling or you run 2 up top and there's no interchange like nothing's been consistent.

43:43.72
Daddy Jaime
You have Kai Haveers who plays more as a right midfielder than he does as a striker like that's like point blank he takes balls when he is overlapping with aspi equeta and he's the guy that sticks there and he doesn't get into the box. He doesn't put any. Effort to go forward I don't know if it's him finally saying fuck you and like I'm a cam or whatever it might be but like the dude doesn't even try anymore and it's it's so frustrating because it's the same thing that I've said since week one this year it's same thing that I said last year it's like he's just a waste of space. But I think Frank Lampardt is was horrible. The first time around I think he's horrible. The second time around I I just don't understand like what he does after this I think that when you ah like just in terms of like trello shot trevorallaba. Has played in 4 different positions in the last four weeks like a young kid who at the beginning of the season said he might get like maybe 10 starts this year right? He started the last 4 in 4 different positions including playing on two opposite sides of the field like he's played as a midfielder. He's played as a right wing back a center back and now a left back. Like gotta figure that out have to no.

44:58.48
henrywynd
It's not good for consistency. Yeah, it's it's it's terrible I think best case scenario for frank genuinely is he goes and is an assistant somewhere for a while I think he he goes and like learns from a top class manager and maybe like revisits management in 10 years I think he needs to get away from being like the guy because I even think about like going to the Mls or something and you still like you still have to know what you're doing in the mls like it's just it's not good and if similar.

45:21.56
Hoover
Still in work. Yeah.

45:23.81
Daddy Jaime
Right.

45:26.33
Dobes
But he can't even he can't even go to like in my opinion can't go commentate right now like it took like Gary Gary Neville after he did in the end model you got like you had to wait a year before he could just go join the booth because he was taking shit like could you imagine could you imagine like characterger.

45:31.18
henrywynd
Yeah, it's bad.

45:34.40
Hoover
Um, yeah, it's bad.

45:42.16
henrywynd
Um, yeah, yeah.

45:45.26
Daddy Jaime
Other just remum.

45:46.10
Dobes
Like all those guys and just Landpart join it. He's got. He's got to take a ah couple years off in my opinion.

45:47.32
Hoover
Assist.

45:50.79
henrywynd
It'd be terrible. Well James the the bright spot for the Chelsea United Game in the coming days is that we will be in New York watching that game together in a soccer bar in New York so

45:52.83
Daddy Jaime
Yeah.

46:06.70
henrywynd
Hopefully we'll get some content for the fellasas up on the tiktok up on the Instagram so I couldn't be more excited to be watching watching that one with you and to look ahead to soccer Sunday fellas now we're not going to dive into each one of our teams because for the majority. if if united wins against Chelsea on Thursday then that should be the top 4 wrapped in the rest of the positions. It might change a little bit between like 6 and sevens but the top 8 is pretty solidified at the moment. The 3 games that I really want to focus on in this segment are Leeds versus Totenham. Lester versus west ham and Everton versus born myth. Those are 3 positions that could go down going into the final day. Um, so gentlemen. Do we have any thoughts on who's going to join Southampton as the relegated teams for this year

46:58.30
Winks
Yeah, Lester was my one.

46:59.14
Hoover
I Lester Lester leads in my opinion I think leads can still beat spurs and I I have yet to look up the moneyline on that as of right now but again doubling down on leads beating spurs. But um.

46:59.21
Bootchie
Lester.

47:15.76
Hoover
Everton just have to win and Everton have the easiest game at home against born myth and I think there's something about playing Everton away. Yeah wings. It's tough tough place. Um, so you know on they and they did the exist.

47:30.81
Bootchie
Yeah.

47:33.50
henrywynd
Sean ditch baby.

47:34.30
Hoover
Sea dason they did the exact same thing last year. Um, so like they've been there. They've done that they've pulled themselves from this relegation situation before I think they're gonna end up being fine. Um, so yeah, give me James Madison 30 mill

47:51.52
Dobes
Let's say who who do you guys? want to stay up like if you could if you like 1 team out of the out of the 3 that are technically in it like who if you could pick who would stay up.

47:52.55
henrywynd
Are.

47:59.42
Winks
Not Everton or.

48:00.60
henrywynd
The the thing is is like when I look at Everton Lester and Leeds all 3 of them should not be in that position like that. There's but i.

48:09.70
Dobes
That's ah I don't want any of them to go down genuinely I don't want any of them to go down like I and I enjoy all three of them in the prem.

48:12.20
Daddy Jaime
I'm right.

48:16.14
henrywynd
I think that all 3 of them do need a little bit of that like culture shock of going down to figure out like what's going I mean Everton was in this position last year like they they didn't get better this year they like they separated with Lampard but like.

48:25.40
Hoover
Um, yeah.

48:29.40
Dobes
Who I was gonna say who is your manager again.

48:33.80
henrywynd
Yeah, it was like the the final day and like all of their fans storm the field and shit like that. But like leads you know I I feel like I want leads to say because they're such a good spectacle like every game that they play is fun and then also Tyler but like.

48:43.15
Hoover
Yeah.

48:48.11
henrywynd
I have to believe that like if if leads go down tyler gets the opportunity to go somewhere else and maybe that's cool to watch him on a different team other than leads. But like they've been missing him like crazy the last couple of like weeks or months or whatever since he's been out so I think if I could choose 1 of the 3 I'm choosing leads just because I think.

48:57.69
Hoover
The.

49:07.54
henrywynd
They're the most fun to watch and I'd be interested in Everton and Lester's players ah picking them up on the transfer market than ah than than leads his players other than Tyler.

49:16.60
Daddy Jaime
I I totally agree I want to see the americans go somewhere cool and and make it at least for me a little bit more exciting to watch them. Leeds is great at times and horrible at times I think it would be really interesting to see where they land for the future.

49:28.84
henrywynd
Are.

49:31.83
Hoover
I saw I saw a tweet today that I kind of agreed with and and it all kind of hinges on Tyler getting out but I think the championship in the same way that it was good for Josh Sargent could be very good for Tyler at or not Tyler Adams um aaronson

49:47.00
Dobes
Aaronson.

49:47.67
henrywynd
Erinson.

49:48.80
Hoover
I think he gets more minutes I think he plays in a little bit less competition and something that may not be as physical. Um because you know Josh has had a hell of a year so I think there could be some resurgence from him which is which is positive but that totally hinges on the fact of Tyler Adams got to get out if they go down.

49:58.48
henrywynd
Um, yeah.

50:06.97
henrywynd
Um, yeah.

50:08.37
Hoover
And it sounds like Weston's not going to be resigned. He's already on a loan from the eventist and people are having conversations with him. So um, you know it was ah it was fun while it lasted with with Leeds Usa but I think we need the boys on some competitive minutes and whether that be lower level for aaronson good or you know top 6 top 10 for tyler good. So best case? yeah.

50:34.86
henrywynd
Yeah.

50:36.72
Dobes
I'm with it I'm I'm with hoove I It's going to sound weird but like surprisingly I've watched a lot of less I've watched a lot of leads as well as Everton and like. I Can't sit here and say that like I don't want any of them to go down but I can't sit here and honestly say that less or leads like deserve to stay in the premier league like for a long long time. They have been so fucking bad and.

50:52.35
henrywynd
No, they're so bad. Dude.

50:52.97
Hoover
Now.

51:01.19
Dobes
Yes, Everton's been so bad at moments but like at the same time I can honestly say that I've seen spells of Everton be great. Um, and it just wasn't consistent enough. They've had different managers. So like if Everton stayed up I think they genuinely deserve it. Um.

51:06.47
Hoover
Yeah.

51:06.82
henrywynd
Um, yeah.

51:16.33
Dobes
I do think you're right there like I could see if they do go down like I'm not necessarily worried about Tyler I'm not necessarily worried about Wes I think if they wanted to they could potentially make moves I know Wes is linked to a ton of clubs in the prem. Um, yeah I mean Brighton would be sick I would fucking love him at Brighton.

51:27.67
henrywynd
Brighton.

51:28.54
Hoover
A good fit. Yep.

51:32.97
Dobes
But yeah I think I think ever ten I think Everton deserves to stay up and honestly if if let like who like you said like James Madison for for 40000000 would be pretty fucking cool.

51:42.81
henrywynd
I just think that forever 10 it would be so good for their club if they went down their ownership is shit. They have a terrible ownership model. Um, like I think that that's I think that that would be best for them. Um, with.

51:47.20
Hoover
Yeah.

51:57.85
henrywynd
With leads I think they need to look at themselves in the mirror and figure out what's going on there but time will tell you know I think this weekend everyone has a lot to a lot to play for and I think leads certainly have the hardest game of all of that. Um, you know. West ham is safe. They they might be resting some guys because they're ahead in in Europe as well. So who knows what's going to happen but um gentlemen we we have ah St Louis City to talk about coming off a 4 oh route over sporting Kansas City fuck those guys by the way like.

52:27.28
Hoover
Fuck those guys just I the right and Dan you you like they I was seeing fans I actually was just chirping all week on Twitter just because that's kind of what I do but.

52:28.23
Winks
Easy Easy Rivalry right.

52:31.25
henrywynd
I Mean cool to see like that. Yeah, the rivalry on social media but fuck those guys.

52:45.72
Hoover
Um, there there were fans like just some of the things that they were saying about St Louis the things they're saying about um the you know their owner coming out and tweeting about you know St Louis Football history and relocation like you they were saying they were saying some shit. Um.

52:58.65
henrywynd
Um, yeah, yeah.

53:02.19
Dobes
Loser.

53:05.00
Hoover
So frankly, you know we we said this last week. There's no such thing as a mustwin game for an expansion team in may this one was and they they showed up and they did it bro. They did it and it was good. It was ah it was a glass of ah cold water for everybody on the squad to know that we can do it without? um. Klaus but also Kansas City looks really bad. The goal keeping was tough I think I save that that Indiana Vasello shot on the second goal. Um, and you know him getting him cooking Graham zeusy.

53:26.50
henrywynd
Horrible.

53:28.11
Winks
Horrible.

53:40.11
henrywynd
It was awesome.

53:41.37
Hoover
Something poetic and something poetic about that though I did love that.

53:45.48
henrywynd
It it was interesting watching like from from the get go the the lineups got dropped and we were so curious of what was going to happen at the left back situation. Obviously Nelson was on a red card suspension. So we knew that he wasn't going to be in the game but Kyle Hebert comes in at left back and.

53:46.60
Dobes
Ah.

54:02.55
henrywynd
Puts in an absolute shift I tweeted it during the game. Um it I knew that it wasn't going to happen because like vaslof had 2 goals. We had some guys that put up some really good points. Stroud had to assist but Hebert was up there like my man of the match contention bro he was nails on that left hand side literally didn't do a single thing wrong the entire time The only thing that you can kind of like talk on is in the first half he had 2 attempts to cross it with his left foot that man cut it right back and pass it to low and a six yard pass from our left back but hey that he got more forward than Nelson has gotten in like 8 teams. So like I think that Hebert came in and put in a shift.

54:29.42
Hoover
City.

54:40.88
henrywynd
Um, but how good was Indiana vassala of bro like he took that game over was in all of the right positions and I was so stoked for the kid.

54:49.38
Hoover
I liked his advanced position a lot and I think Blom is the key that unlocked everything he unlocked all of it and it was so cool to see.

54:57.76
Dobes
Dude he gave that security row. Yeah.

55:04.23
Hoover
Um, indie and lo and just have the freedom to be the player that they can be like I said two weeks ago without Claus and and anyone else really backing up low in the middle. Um he he does too much. He may just be overextending. He was great because he had backup. And B Blam just I mean he swept it all and it was so good on the ball dude like I didn't know who I was watching I was sitting next to to Dan Hornesey at the game and every time he do anything the littlest of turns quick little 3 s I would just punched in and be like this is who we thought he was bro. This is the guy.

55:30.40
henrywynd
Um.

55:40.41
Daddy Jaime
A week long yeah Yeah, yeah,

55:42.26
Hoover
This is the guy that we thought and he was. He was so comfortable. So smart on the ball I can't talk enough about him and I think he he I don't want to say he got snubbed from the team of the week on the mls because we did have 3 other players in that but you know those those sixes do so much.

55:43.73
henrywynd
Ah.

55:45.90
Bootchie
Here. Um.

56:00.96
Hoover
For a team and they're so underappreciated. So I think he needs flowers here and there just to be like no defensive nails smart on the ball quick out finds low and we're up like it. It was it just worked to a T in the way that we like to play which.

56:05.80
Dobes
Yeah.

56:17.80
Hoover
That looked a lot more like the first five weeks. So.

56:19.50
Dobes
Yeah I thought first off great game to be at like an unbelievable atmosphere but like all 4 goals I mean the the pen was not a pen if you've seen the replay definitely one hundred percent not a pen.

56:20.50
henrywynd
Um.

56:28.79
Hoover
No, not a pen. No shot.

56:32.63
Dobes
But like like you said ho that sort of set the tone and and from there like the next 3 goals that we scored in that game were all class like 1 started from the blonb buildup he beat him the overlapping run like we went hunt. We one hundred percent deserve to win that game and it was nicecy and. Like the difference in the game like who have you mentioned it but like the goalie like we haven't talked about burkeke like he didn't have a ton to do but when he was called upon late in the second half like those back-to-backto-back saves like absolutely unbelievable I've been so kind of like wishy-washy on him in terms of like. Just came over here. It's a retirement move but like you can tell that like he wants to prove something to to to Dartman for for letting him go because that save was unbelievable I think the the last point that I'll make about the game that we sort of said it beforehand like that this city team needed.

57:06.23
henrywynd
Um, oh yeah.

57:06.54
Hoover
Yeah, dormant. Yeah dude.

57:21.32
Dobes
Like a win. It was kind of like weird to say that it was a must win. But I also think as like cheesy as it sounds like like that game meant a lot to so many people from St Louis like grew up playing soccer in St Louis and being in the soccer capital.

57:31.78
henrywynd
Oh yeah.

57:35.95
Dobes
And so there was like people that like genuinely had like emotions riding in that game and I think that you saw the players like take that energy and actually feed off of that which having weeks weeks in a row where you've seen a lackluster performance. Um, and them not be great. Yes, sporting was fucking terrible.

57:41.97
Hoover
Yeah.

57:52.36
Dobes
But just the fact that they the guys showed up like that and and just with that performance is exactly what you could ask for especially against your rival.

57:57.27
Hoover
And I heard interviews and gosh I actually listened to Bekee this morning on on Espn Radio and and he said they they asked him like did teams just start to figure out St Louis and he was like yeah like yes we didn't have anything that we were able to change for the time being.

58:09.85
Dobes
Yeah, yeah.

58:15.64
Hoover
You know to when when you're super confident in your style 9 times out of 10 that shouldn't matter and you can beat them the way that they know that you're gonna try and play and that's what Carnell I think preaches with minor tactical changes here and there so this one was one of those to where they.

58:25.49
henrywynd
Ah.

58:33.40
Hoover
We we didn't stray from how we played they leaned into the crowd so hard and they just made Kansas City's backline so uncomfortable the entire game so it it was a carnell masterclass if we're going to if we're going to start throwing out, you know managerial credit here. So.

58:37.49
Dobes
Yep yep.

58:53.60
Hoover
Um, but yeah it it was huge and it it feels like a turning point at least you know we're goingnna get G Klaus back. Um, he and niko just link up so well I think you know there will be tweaks throughout the season but it really is back to. The way that we feel that we should play every week class. Oh disgusting. Yeah.

59:11.38
Dobes
But the Nico finish was fucking class too. Yeah, like it was a nice, nice, nice little throughball too and he he took that perfect touches sit to set the goalie up for that and then the dink was perfect. Yeah.

59:13.49
henrywynd
It was awesome. It was awesome.

59:23.16
Hoover
You see those flashes.

59:25.28
henrywynd
Dude and he also had that one that that there was like that breakout where he like flew down the wing took like everyone on and then just like barely barely made the wrong touch at the very end but like it is funny like I don't know if you all think about this but like every once in a while like watch the mls and I'm like you know we. Played soccer at like a high level like how would I do out there like if you threw me into that game. How would I do and like sometimes I'm like I you know I could have done better I could have made that save I could have whatever that run that Giakini made in like the center back was like chasing after him I was like I would have gotten dusted so bad like I would.

59:58.52
Winks
Not ever over.

59:58.53
Dobes
Ah, no, no. Ah.

59:58.99
Hoover
Um, yeah.

01:00:01.38
henrywynd
I would have taken that card 2 touches into that run like I was slide tackling that guy from behind I mean the wheels on that guy. Ah.

01:00:03.85
Hoover
So.

01:00:07.87
Dobes
Um, wrote Madison Madison the entire game kept going like why aren't you playing like why aren't why aren't you all out there I'm like I have 2 tall boys next to me like that's why I'm not fucking playing out there. Ah.

01:00:16.30
Daddy Jaime
I.

01:00:16.47
Hoover
Fish excuse.

01:00:18.39
henrywynd
Like that ship has sailed baby but I was sick in my day. The St Louis City Boys have Vancouver this weekend which is a little ode to timmy parker's origins in the mls I believe that Nerwinsky is from Vancouver as well. So.

01:00:19.92
Bootchie
Yeah, yeah.

01:00:22.19
Dobes
Um.

01:00:36.46
henrywynd
I know that those games or that game will mean a lot to those guys so we'll see how we do this weekend. Um, before we move into our factor cap. We have our weekly segment of the flowers and showers now this one is a group decision. This one is our first ah our our first on this podcast where the whole group is taking. These flowers and showers. So to start off with the flowers boys I don't know about I don't know about you all. But I'm excited for the us men's national team. Can anyone tell us why we're excited for the us men's national team.

01:01:08.20
Winks
Flow flow.

01:01:08.47
Hoover
Flow low.

01:01:11.26
Bootchie
Um, I'm jacked up. Oh.

01:01:17.16
henrywynd
Ah, Florian Ballaggoon is coming to the Us men's national team. He got the official. Okay, from Fifa, he changed his allegiance from England to the United States this could be the number 9 that we have waited for for years I mean we've seen guys try to plug that position and this one is by far the most prominent one that we've had. He's the only one of those guys that have done it in a big 5 league since Clint Dempsey so this is big for the us men's national team. How are you all feeling about it.

01:01:49.71
Dobes
Jacked I do think it's funny though that he scored this weekend and now all of a sudden they're posting about he's the first american to sco to score 20 goals in Europe's top 5 league but it's like ah.

01:01:49.91
Bootchie
Jack.

01:01:52.33
Hoover
Him yeah, in a 5 he posted it too. He posted the videos so proud to be the first american I was like this guy knows it bro. He's just spitting in gout south gates.

01:01:52.71
henrywynd
yeah yeah yeah yeah I was like to de scorere one as an american or or 20 like what's the word shit.

01:01:57.14
Daddy Jaime
Ah.

01:01:59.61
Bootchie
Um, let me.

01:01:59.83
Daddy Jaime
The a.

01:02:02.82
Dobes
Yeah, you he reposted it? Yeah, the I'm I'm jacked about it I do think that he has the potential to be that that nine that we've missing I've been watch binge watched Youtube videos to sort of his highlights even from back at like his arsenal days.

01:02:10.47
Hoover
Base.

01:02:22.23
Dobes
And he's a special special talent. Um I do think he's got a lot of pressure sort of coming on his shoulders that like probably has nothing to do with him set nothing to do with himself but just because he has scored 28 twenty goals um and he has done redone the season like people are going to expect him to perform.

01:02:27.65
henrywynd
Oh yeah.

01:02:39.90
Dobes
And there's also some guys who I definitely say he's better than but are gonna be fighting for that spot right? behind him for that 9 So he's got to come in and score goals for us but super jacked out for him. We haven't had like sort of prospect like like him as a nine and I don't even know what if you want to call demsey a nine like.

01:02:42.53
Hoover
Yeah, yep.

01:02:54.87
henrywynd
Yeah I mean he's such a. He's such a different different kind of player and what what I What will be interesting to watch is like as this young core of Americans are kind of like building together in.

01:02:58.20
Dobes
I Don't even know who the last one was bro.

01:03:10.20
henrywynd
What will be the 2026 world cup the style of play is definitely going to have to get solidified I think a lot of the times when we're watching you know Hazus Ferra drop in there or Brandon Vasquez you know, most recently drop in there. Whoever else is going to play that nine like we try to tailor our style around that and. Sometimes they're not involved whatsoever. But I think that that flow is going to command the ball a little bit more He's going to be asking more of his teammates and I think that that's good for all the guys behind them so I'm hoping that they can build that chemistry ahead of 2026 and you know we have a lot of years to do it three years before we kick off here in America for ah.

01:03:45.33
Hoover
I think it's huge for I think it's huge in terms of the competition dobes you you mentioned it but I don't think this is a bad thing for Ricardo Pepe like I think Ricardo pepi.

01:03:46.64
henrywynd
That world cup.

01:03:53.75
henrywynd
Oh yeah, that's great. That's a good shout.

01:03:56.30
Dobes
Definitely not.

01:03:56.79
Hoover
Is seeing this at 19 years old after being the other most recent dual net to be like yeah I'm going to do it with the with the americans he I think there's so much positive in his game too and they're just not the same player which plays into our hands. So well. So.

01:04:04.86
Dobes
Happy's got a big move coming too.

01:04:11.56
Dobes
Death.

01:04:13.87
henrywynd
Um.

01:04:15.25
Hoover
It at least gives us options looking in the next two three 4 years um but yeah, you're right that you can't deny the the season that that flows hadn you know duty scores he scored like 4 or 5 like full volleys in France this year

01:04:30.64
Dobes
Bannger's turn.

01:04:31.75
Hoover
Screamers bro. It's insane.

01:04:33.78
henrywynd
Ah I love that now. Unfortunately on the showers side of the the conversation. Ah, we're given showers to whileliga. And Valencia's fan base now to to welcome everyone into the conversation for the entire I mean since he started at real madrid venisius jr has just gotten racially abused every single stadium that he goes to I mean. He's not the first black player to play in Laliga he won't be the last. But for whatever reason he gets it every single game I can't even tell you how many times we've seen it this season alone. But what happened you know this past weekend against valencia is he was getting abused the entire game then the.

01:05:02.49
Daddy Jaime
Them.

01:05:21.30
henrywynd
Goalkeeper of valencia just all of a sudden went ballistic came running up to to Vinny then one of Valencia's defenders put venisius in a headlock. All the teams came together and somehow throughout it all venisius is the one that gets the red card. No one else. No other suspensions. No other anything and here we are. You know the day after two days after the game looking at that saying what the fuck is lotliga doing and lot of league as president comes out and makes a statement of of you know, doubling down on the races. The racism. So I think you know from all of us. It's an absolute joke of an organization. La liga is and those fans.

01:05:50.19
Dobes
Clown.

01:06:00.81
henrywynd
Valencia can get fucked I mean it's just we love this game. We absolutely love it. We'll watch it every day but when you start like you know. Doing that because of someone's race when you start chanting at someone because of someone's race. It's so disrespectful and it's so gross like it's such a disgusting thing to watch. No.

01:06:18.44
Dobes
But it doesn't make sense like everything all of the reaction from aliga and none of it. None of it makes sense like just just the the sort of lack of awareness and like the lack of like the reading the room like how many x players have come out just like. Calling out laliga like everybody that you can name it as they should and that's what I think is so like the craziest part about it to me is the fact that like not only is this like the first time this is like vinny gets it every single time that he plays and nothing gets done.

01:06:37.65
Hoover
That's me.

01:06:39.18
henrywynd
Um.

01:06:47.15
henrywynd
Um, yeah.

01:06:50.81
Dobes
Like there's there's never repercussions like there's no fans leaving the stadium I think that's the most frustrating part is this isn't the first time and if aliga acts how they have. It's not going to be the last and that's the worst part about it because Vinny's a special special player.

01:06:54.96
henrywynd
Yeah, yeah, and angelloian his press. Yeah Angello and his press game conference says like you know you have you have conversations with players all the time and you always ask like you know sometimes they're not having a good game. They're off their form so you ask them like hey. Want to get subbed or like let's get you out there but to have a conversation with the player ever to say? Do you want to get subbbed because you're getting racially abused so you have to come off the field. It's bullshit bro like yeah yeah.

01:07:19.44
Dobes
Crazy.

01:07:22.24
Hoover
And into into Vinny's credit he never wants to his he wants to fucking score and he wants to fucking dance in your corner and he's gonna do it. So I you know it's so much so much love to Vinny and you know obviously.

01:07:26.90
Daddy Jaime
Brave right.

01:07:38.37
Hoover
Anyone who's gone through that. But just the general lack of response at all and like if it happens in england it happens in England england's not special, but it happens everywhere. That's the shitty part about it but in in England we've seen guys recently Chelsea fan have his season ticket revoked because he was.

01:07:46.60
Dobes
Happens everywhere happens everywhere.

01:07:56.12
Dobes
Very good.

01:07:58.32
Hoover
Making eyes at sunny and it was a 1 ne-off instance bad guy does not necessarily reflect on all Chelsey fans. But for the entire stadium to be to be chanting at him and there to be a reaction from valencia that says Vinnie needs to stick to what he knows and and vinney needs to you know, not generalize valencia fans.

01:08:08.29
Dobes
Yeah, yeah.

01:08:18.21
Hoover
That's insane I want a relegation like I want something like that. Nothing comes nothing good comes after this it I don't blame him I've seen Fabricbricio tweet a lot. He has no plans on leaving pult madrid no plans on leaving Madrid but I'm with Rio ferdinand Rio Ferdinand was like.

01:08:19.95
henrywynd
Yeah, dude. Yeah.

01:08:20.98
Daddy Jaime
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:08:22.22
Dobes
Um.

01:08:26.58
Daddy Jaime
Right.

01:08:37.17
Hoover
This kid needs protection bro for the country that he's living in what the fuck is he doing leave on he needs someone to be there with him. He's I need I want him out.

01:08:37.87
henrywynd
Yeah, dude, what the hell yeah 22

01:08:38.59
Daddy Jaime
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:08:40.10
Dobes
Yeah, du was it was it. What is he 21 twenty one years ah 22 years old like he's still developing bro like yeah, that's yeah, it is 1 of the best best wingers in the world. Yeah.

01:08:53.23
henrywynd
Um, yeah.

01:08:53.85
Hoover
I Don't want to watch the the laliga you know I'm it's so disheartening and discouraging after like a ah lot of growth I think around the world in in just the you know race department in general and just to see the time just tick backwards on this one. But.

01:09:10.14
henrywynd
Yeah I I I guess like it's so can like the obviously La Lee's response is so confusing but like valencia has black players like you know you're like.

01:09:12.49
Hoover
Fucked.

01:09:23.13
Dobes
Yeah, that yeah none of it makes sense to but it makes sense I.

01:09:27.75
henrywynd
Yeah, you're like chanting at Vinny and it's like all of the players on the field hear. It's not just him so it's like how do you as a black player at valencia say yeah I'm going to like rep this badge I'm going to I'm going to like show up for this team weekend and week out like I wouldn't be surprised if like there was. You know mutiny amongst the valencia players.

01:09:48.46
Daddy Jaime
Right? And that's my thing is like how is it always subject to him like that's what I don't understand because this is what the fourth or fifth time that it's gone everywhere this year like it. It's nuts. It made it literally makes no sense and like ho was talking a lot about being tone deaf but I think like.

01:09:51.43
Hoover
Yeah.

01:09:53.96
henrywynd
Um, yeah.

01:09:56.29
Dobes
At least? yeah.

01:10:06.38
Daddy Jaime
Laliga is being extremely tone deaf to other things that are happening around the world and it just it makes him look worse and worse and I think it gains for venny it gains fans from across the world for dealing with it and wanting to continue playing and all of that stuff like I'm more of a fan of Vinny now than I ever have been even though he just knocked us out of the champions league like.

01:10:18.83
Dobes
Hundred percent yeah absolutely doing. Ah.

01:10:25.99
Daddy Jaime
More of a fan than a hand than ever seriously like I think it takes a big man to to take that and not saying I've ever dealt with anything like that. But like it takes a big fucking man to deal with that.

01:10:34.26
Hoover
Yeah.

01:10:36.58
henrywynd
Yeah, and takes a big man to come out and call out La Liga too like not just saying like oh this is like something that I deal with but to say no La Liga is the issue like they're not protecting me. They're not protecting us. Ah as you know black players I think that that's huge. You know.

01:10:38.28
Daddy Jaime
Yeah, bad.

01:10:51.70
henrywynd
We we talk about like social activism how athletes have such a unique platform and not everyone uses that platform and so I'm hoping that with his statements with the former you know players coming out and talking as well. I hope that there's something that can happen inside of La Liar because right now it's.

01:11:07.40
Hoover
Shit show absolute shit show.

01:11:08.45
henrywynd
What a shit product and like what a shit organization to deal with same same.

01:11:09.94
Dobes
I Hope he continues to just tear lotliga apart like that. That's the best thing you can do is if he just continues to blow up that league and real or good like that's like like obviously it doesn't make anything better, but.

01:11:22.80
Winks
That's the that's that's like the double it. That's that's a double edge sword though. Like if if he continues to crush it and do well like he's just making the league more money getting more viewers for the league So like on on the other end of the ste. You could also say like I wish a club in another league.

01:11:31.35
Dobes
True. That's a good point. It's a good point.

01:11:40.74
Winks
You know had the ability to sign him for next season so that you know a lot a lot less people. Yeah a lot less people, especially from Brazil would be watching a league in next year because he's not there. But.

01:11:43.14
henrywynd
He doesn't have to do that shit. Yeah.

01:11:44.79
Dobes
It's a great point.

01:11:48.77
Dobes
Hundred percent

01:11:49.63
Hoover
The brazilian the brazilian president came out and made a statement like the the globe is aware of this. You know where how do you feel so isolated to be so wrong. The Brazil won't watch the spanish league anymore and like.

01:11:58.39
henrywynd
Are.

01:12:04.35
henrywynd
Are.

01:12:09.38
Hoover
As a country they it's it's useless to them. You just spit on your on Brazil's child love child. It's on no unbelievable.

01:12:15.55
henrywynd
Yeah, and they're supposed to be guys like Andrik the 16 year old in Brazil who's supposed to be going to real madrid you know next year or the year after like that could fall through There's just a lot of bullshit but you know gentlemen before we before we hang the show up on factor cap we have a huge game. On saturday ah barruia dortman is in poll position to win the bundesliga for the first time in a while after Byron Munich slipped up heavily against Leipzig um under Thomas Tookle by the way who has now lost more games.

01:12:50.95
Daddy Jaime
We got seek her entrance everywhere baby. We got him at all. We got him a buyer. We got him everywhere.

01:12:51.52
henrywynd
Then Nigel's men and yet is still in a position it else. This is good. Um, so Dortman take that's the big game if dortman wins they they they win the title so they play minds at home at eight thirty a m central.

01:12:55.76
Dobes
Ah.

01:12:57.40
Bootchie
Um, getting at.

01:13:09.46
Dobes
That's the only game. The only game.

01:13:11.30
henrywynd
It's the only game that matters in in that lineup now. Ah, how are we feeling I know that that you all I mean we all have been massive fans of dortman throughout the entire throughout the entire season and Dotman's at home they can clench the title they can win in front of a home crowd. How are you feeling.

01:13:31.50
Dobes
Overly confident I think especially because Ju Jude should be back at the weekend and I think that's really all they need more than anything I want to see them do this for Michael Royce I don't think he's I don't think I'm pretty sure he's never done it. Um.

01:13:32.28
Bootchie
Yes, are.

01:13:40.13
Hoover
I need that trophy lift I need that trophy lift for Marco.

01:13:40.91
henrywynd
Yeah bro.

01:13:48.40
Dobes
So it's seeing him and him just choosing to be the guy that stay at dormant through it all as every single decent player around him left to see him. Finally do it will be awesome. So I'm I'm confident I think Dorman has everything everything in him to to get it done.

01:14:00.80
henrywynd
You you couldn't ask for a better game to end your season on now mines are in ninth they're coming off of 4 losses in a row they're playing like shit so they're not playing well whatsoever. I think that this could be the year like we've said um I'd I'd love for for Royce just like you said, but what a story in Sebastian Hollare as well to come off of cancer to go through chemo come back Midway Brace at the weekend to you know to lift them into this poll position I think I look all over.

01:14:23.20
Hoover
Yeah.

01:14:27.31
Dobes
Brace it the weekend too.

01:14:35.23
henrywynd
That team you know Julian Brantt who we who we laugh at like every week of like what he could be if he was like even an ounce consistent but that man's in the team of the season for for the Bundesliga. He's put in some incredible performances I just. I like everyone on that team I want them to do it. So badly. It would be great.

01:14:56.58
Hoover
Royce is up there with like like Tatti like Francisco Tati went at Roma like that like single club legend shit like I I need that trophy lifts I need that trophy. Love so bad. So bad.

01:14:59.89
Dobes
Yeah, dune.

01:15:06.18
henrywynd
Um, yeah, inject it bro inject it now Butchy you want to take us home with a factor cat.

01:15:08.44
Dobes
Loyalty man.

01:15:21.10
henrywynd
Yeah, bro yeah do to what the oh bro. Jesus.

01:15:21.70
Bootchie
Let's ride on home fellows You guys ready No more I've just been chilling list I've been listening and I've been listening it bro. All you guys ready.

01:15:22.68
Dobes
Far you sleep and do like wake up. No.

01:15:27.65
Daddy Jaime
Um.

01:15:27.85
Winks
I'm awake I'm awake. What was the question.

01:15:34.72
henrywynd
No, we're going to wait another 15 minutes before we ask you again.

01:15:37.16
Hoover
Um, yeah.

01:15:38.98
Bootchie
Right? Well I'm ready bro. Okay here we go I'm gonna start with ah winks. So my question you know shoutout to shoutout to dos man is the good question. Um, who's had the better season earling Holland at man city or Harry Kane at spurs.

01:15:39.45
Dobes
Ah, you let us know when you're ready.

01:15:58.81
Winks
I mean Holland Holland broke the goal record I think what is he at 36 right now. Harrycane's at like 28 and man I'll tell you what if he if he wasn't on Touttenham I would be so pissed for him that he scored 28 goals in the season and didn't win the golden boot.

01:15:58.90
Bootchie
And why.

01:16:06.10
Dobes
28

01:16:07.81
Bootchie
Um, he's at 30 stick 28 for king.

01:16:17.70
Winks
But fuck spurs fuck Harry Cane erling Holland so.

01:16:24.43
Dobes
Ah, yeah, way to start it with winks.

01:16:25.48
henrywynd
Yeah.

01:16:25.50
Bootchie
Easy answer from the arsenal fan. Lovely I Love I Love the energy I Love the energy. Um.

01:16:27.10
Hoover
Knock that I want to good.

01:16:27.68
Winks
I Love you who've love you who've no, but no, but like the real the the main comparison you can make and if if City win the Champions league then it's absolutely no contest. But the only the only argument I really see here is that.

01:16:28.70
Daddy Jaime
Ah, the.

01:16:32.30
henrywynd
Are.

01:16:46.80
Winks
Kane doesn't have a whole lot around him Sonny's underperforming this season. He doesn't have a whole lot around him helping him produce. So the fact that he scored 28 goals with the other 10 guys on the field that he has with him is impressive in itself and then you look at Holland scoring 36 with you know. A lot of the best players in the world in their respective positions. He should have that many for sure. But you know at at the end of the day you you can look at the players that you have around you on the field and and who's able to feed you balls and send crosses in but you you still have to put them in the net. And the fact that he's done it 36 times and might win a champions league and might win it and won a preer league and might win a trouble. Um is Holland for me.

01:17:37.17
Daddy Jaime
Yeah I think at least me moving into it as well. I think there's 2 different ways to look at it for me. There's a more impressive season and a better season the way that he verbalized it was a better season like.

01:17:43.41
Dobes
Ah, oh.

01:17:50.20
Hoover
Yeah I would agree with that.

01:17:56.47
Daddy Jaime
Factually wise like Holland had a better season I think the more impressive season for me is Kane because of what he has around him at times Todnham are a hundred percent laughable like just a joke at times and so for me I think it's ah it's a 2 wo-way street in which way you want to verbalize that word, right. What adjective you want to use towards them. Um, so for me, it's still Holland based on the way the question's asked.

01:18:16.29
henrywynd
Ah.

01:18:21.30
Dobes
I think yeah based on the way the questions has you really can't hol that I think you guys have sort of all hit the key points with with Kane that nobody can tell me that if Harry Kane wasn't in this same exactc city team that he wouldn't have the same amount of goals if not more. Um.

01:18:35.58
henrywynd
Right.

01:18:35.64
Hoover
Yeah, whole heart of the.

01:18:38.73
Dobes
And I think I think that's I 100% wholeheartedly like agree with that. Um, especially just sort of the fact that like people will continue to say and obviously they haven't won 2 more trophies but people are already saying that this is pep's best city teamies ever had um.

01:18:56.10
henrywynd
Um.

01:18:57.70
Dobes
And you can say a lot of that maybe has to do with Holland but then again I think a lot of it doesn't because so many of the goals that he scored this year are tap ins and and pens and yes, you still have to score but Harry Kane's doing this with sort of like the junkyard dogs every single week with like guys random guys playing in the midfield changes. All this different stuff and he still continues to score goals. So I think Jake hit the nail on the head like overall better season. It has to be Holland but like I think you can't sort of discount. What Harry Kane has done to score 28 goals this year in a spurs team that we have seen be through who's emotions be so fucking.

01:19:36.31
Dobes
Ah, key. Ah.

01:19:36.39
henrywynd
Just be so bad. Dude I don't know like I I'm ah I'm a big fan of like players being complete players and guys that can do it on both sides of the ball they can pass they can score they can do all of that and harrycane is more complete to me than early Holland is but. I think I don't know if city go on to do it and do it in the treble I I think that it's just it's so hard to say anyone other than Holland he he's come in and done such an amazing job. Um I get it like I'm I'm a big fan of the full player of Cain. But i. I think it's earling Holland I think that he's had the the better season.

01:20:14.72
Dobes
It's taken like everything in me not to just go off on City right now. But I'm gonna save it for the end of the season review.

01:20:18.49
henrywynd
Yeah I mean I agree that it might be a product of some of the other guys that are around him but that man just gets himself in the right position all the time and then also not saying that this is like you know anything against harrycane because I don't have anything bad to say about him. But like Holland is a fucking winner man like you you listen to him in his black post game conferences. He's always looking at what's the next goal What's the next? Whatever like he's so professional at 22 like the way he he handles himself. We've said it for a long time. He's only getting better. But. I don't know man to to look at a 22 year old first year in the league. He's fucking electric and Harry Kane obviously it's not 22, but this is his best ever season and it's getting outshined by a 22 year old kid I don't know. Definitely not.

01:21:10.80
Dobes
Hallenade score in 28 spurs no shot

01:21:10.38
Hoover
Fuck No fuck. No.

01:21:14.68
henrywynd
Definitely not but like it's like things that we'll never know bro like we'll never know and so that is the situation that he's in right now and he's he's handling it well over hold my beer hold my beer but.

01:21:23.57
Hoover
Alright, so here's where I come in you. So I know I know I'm I'm I'm hip I'm hip I'm all too hip. It's terrible. But um.

01:21:29.93
Dobes
Um, a this might be the last time you can defend your boy as a totton player. So.

01:21:30.93
Winks
I.

01:21:33.18
henrywynd
That's true. That's true.

01:21:38.85
Hoover
I think Harry Kane in his own goofy english way is also mamba mentality like like very very number 1 professional has always been the same type of professional outwardly to the media and I think he may not show it as much. He definitely is like. Killer take all like no holds off like just a serious serious professional treats himself really well like dietary plans works out. Whatever you want to fucking talk about but Holland is that as well. So I'm not just crediting that. But um, ah it. I don't you guys said it. You guys said it for the most part I would like to watch all of his all of both of their goal involvements back to back in in just 1 sitdown and I would look at I would and and it's gonna be um, you know you you know what? you're gonna get you know.

01:22:23.95
Daddy Jaime
You do that man you get you go for it.

01:22:28.17
henrywynd
Ah, you have fun.

01:22:35.16
Hoover
What you're going to watch when you see Harry Kane's goal involvements of the year all you know I think 38 or 40 something of them. Um, and you know whatric erling hollands are going to be too. Um, we're we're we're picking apples and oranges here because 1 guy scored 36 goals no way you can know where you can avoid it. Um, the things that Harry Kane does every single week are genuinely more impressive to me and and and just more football oriented and I do think he is still the better player. Um, but guy scores a shit ton of goals. Is what it is golden boot I'm pissed. He's not going to get it either. But it's not like fucking anybody deserves it on spurs. So it's a damn shame for him but he's better than earling island. So.

01:23:26.51
Dobes
How ah holen's also just a bad guy. You know I don't know if you guys saw it throwing out fbos on national television after for the one that title not that I looked this up or anything but Wayne Rooney did the same thing in 2011 it was suspect.

01:23:30.29
Hoover
She assist. Yeah.

01:23:31.31
henrywynd
Yeah I mean Jesus.

01:23:40.80
Dobes
Suspended for 3 games. So Holland should probably be suspended for the fa cup. Final.

01:23:43.44
henrywynd
Very true hey.

01:23:46.28
Hoover
They're both so like all are erling Holland so likable brown is so likable.

01:23:47.50
Dobes
Ah, ah, it's what so it's what's so annoying. That's it's so annoying. He's the most likable Targarian of them all.

01:23:47.74
Winks
Do it Good God dobes.

01:23:54.35
Hoover
My favorite video ever is him in his full brush Aortman Tracksuit from training after their last win in the club making drinks for other people like dapping guys I eat it up. He's amazing.

01:24:02.73
henrywynd
Clubbing.

01:24:06.12
Dobes
Ah, him it him and greelish are great together. Yeah.

01:24:12.13
Hoover
So fun.

01:24:16.12
henrywynd
So at this time next week fellas will be finished with a premier league season. We'll be able to do some recaps and that'll be a wrap for the prem season. So ah congratulations on another episode fellas ah to all of our listeners listeners out there. Um, we have some big episodes coming. Um, we have our premier league recaps where where we're going to deep dive into each one of our seasons individually. We're going to go through our player of the season we're going to go through um things like that and in addition to that we have. Ah, Josh Yarrow coming onto the podcast ah recording this week and and we'll get that to you all as as soon as we can coming from St Louis City you know the the first signing to our St Louis City 2 team captain of st louis city 2 over the last year number 2 overall draft back in 2016 ah, big time player and we're we're excited to have a conversation with him coming up this week so we'll get that to you all as quickly as possible and cheers fellows great episode.

01:25:15.69
Winks
All done lads.

01:25:15.90
Hoover
Yeah, that's.

01:25:19.80
Daddy Jaime
Cheers bice.